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		<title>Election debates need killer questioners &#124; Anne Perkins</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="track"><img alt="" src="http://hits.guardian.co.uk/b/ss/guardiangu-feeds/1/H.20.3/98793?ns=guardian&#38;pageName=Election+debates+need+killer+questioners+%7C+Anne+Perkins%3AArticle%3A1322106&#38;ch=Comment+is+free&#38;c3=GU.co.uk&#38;c4=General+election%2CPolitics%2CTelevision+%28Culture%29%2CTelevision+and+radio+TV%2CTelevision+industry+%28Media%29%2CMedia%2CUK+news%2CGordon+Brown%2CNick+Clegg%2CDavid+Cameron&#38;c6=Anne+Perkins&#38;c7=09-Dec-22&#38;c8=1322106&#38;c9=Article&#38;c10=Comment&#38;c11=Comment+is+free&#38;c13=&#38;c25=Comment+is+free&#38;c30=content&#38;h2=GU%2FComment+is+free%2Fblog%2FComment+is+free" width="1" height="1" /></div><p class="standfirst">Can the three interchangeable presenters rise to the challenge and get under the skin of three almost interchangeable leaders?</p><p>As one of nature's enthusiasts, a kind of Candide of the political scene, it is a struggle to be sceptical, let alone cynical. But as I listen to the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8425280.stm" title="BBC: Brown to face three televised election debates ">excited outpourings of the broadcast political correspondents</a>, I am left repeating the timeless cliche: "Well they <em>would</em> say that, wouldn't they?"</p><p>One live TV debate between the three main party leaders (tough luck, SNP) is certainly a political event. <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/dec/21/political-leaders-live-tv-debate" title="Guardian: Political party leaders agree plan for historic live TV debates">Three</a> â€“ well, that's the world of broadcasting diversity. But exciting? Well, maybe only to broadcasters. The politicians have finally recognised there is a forum for debate outside the House of Commons, and it's theirs.</p><p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/dec/21/election-tv-debates#start-of-comments" title="Guardian: Gordon Brown, David Cameron and Nick Clegg to appear in live TV debates - comments">Those commenting on this story</a> are generally as sceptical as I am, fearing it will be all about sweaty upper lips rather than political ambition and fundamental beliefs.</p><p>I suspect that very swiftly the debate will be not Brown/Cameron/Clegg but Stewart/Boulton/Dimbleby. And, in a curious way, it should be. If this is to be a real, substantive debate where the party leaders are forced to confront the implications of their rhetoric, then it is the three presenters, ITV's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alastair_Stewart" title="Wikpedia: Alastair Stewart">Alastair Stewart</a>, Sky's <a href="http://blogs.news.sky.com/boultonandco" title="Sky: Adam Boulton">Adam Boulton</a>  and the BBC's <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/question_time/david_dimbleby/default.stm" title="BBC: David Dimbleby">David Dimbleby</a> that will have to make them do it.</p><p>Tory bloggers wonder why David Cameron has <a href="http://conservativehome.blogs.com/thetorydiary/2009/12/these-debates-are-a-christmas-gift-to-brown-and-clegg.html" title="Conservative Home: Christmas comes early for Brown and Clegg in the shape of election debates">exposed his poll lead to such a challenge</a>. But if the debate chairmen (and heavens, how much more similar can you get that these three: white, top of the range, 50+ political personalities, brought up in the same school of political broadcasting. It's not a bad school, but others are available) can actually pin the players down, and â€“ most centrally â€“ get, for example, Cameron to address what he thinks the state can and can't do, and whether he really thinks what he has implied in speeches to his party conference and in the <a href="http://www.conservatives.com/News/Speeches/2009/11/David_Cameron_The_Big_Society.aspx" title="Conservatives: The Big Society speech">Hugo Young lecture</a>, that the bankers are somehow less culpable than government in the current crisis. And get Brown to explain just why he so powerfully endorsed noble ends such as <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3509886.stm" title="BBC: Brown's child poverty challenge">ending child poverty</a> or feeding Africa, while creating the economic conditions that would make it most difficult to achieve them. And get Clegg to set out <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8264994.stm" title="BBC: Clegg rejects Tory alliance call ">where his bottom line really lies</a>. In short, if one of them can get the politicians to reveal their thinking â€“ then there really will have been an advance for democracy.</p><p>But three interchangeable presenters will almost certainly just underline that our voting options in the election will be between three almost interchangeable politicians.</p><p>Yet a good debate really can change minds, or at least explain people's prejudices to themselves. I fear my mastermind-level knowledge of <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Red-Queen-Authorised-Biography-Barbara/dp/0330486411/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books&#38;qid=1261427965&#38;sr=1-1" title="Amazon: Red Queen - The Authorised Biography of Barbara Castle by Anne Perkins">Barbara Castle's life</a> is about to impose itself. But it was a debate on Europe that found her out. It took place at the Oxford Union in 1975, televised because no one would participate in a formal studio debate (aren't the political classes wearisomely slow to think about things in a new way?). And this was probably a decisive moment in the public perception of the campaign.</p><p>The Liberal leader Jeremy Thorpe â€“ speaking with Edward Heath for the "yes" campaign â€“ challenged her to resign from Harold Wilson's Labour government if the vote went against her. Her attempt to present her campaign as the last moment to defend Britain's ability to make its own laws was shredded by Thorpe's taunt. Surely, was the underlying message, if Britain in Europe meant its government became powerless, there would be no point in belonging to it. My country would need me more than ever, she retorted. Not a bad response really, but too many people already saw Castle as a self-promoting doctrinaire politician of the left. It was an invitation to derision, a confirmation of all that her detractors claimed about her, and about the campaign of which she was a leading member. It was not about principle, just party position.</p><p>What would be the killer question now? Or are Cameron and Brown locked in a kind of political waltz so closely choreographed that neither will allow the other space to reveal their true political selves, least of all in a debate chaired by interchangeable presenters?</p><div class="related" style="float: left;margin-right: 10px;margin-bottom: 10px"><ul><li><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/general-election">General election</a></li><li><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/television">Television</a></li><li><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/television">Television industry</a></li><li><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/gordon-brown">Gordon Brown</a></li><li><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/nickclegg">Nick Clegg</a></li><li><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/davidcameron">David Cameron</a></li></ul></div><div class="author"><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/anneperkins">Anne Perkins</a></div><br /><div class="terms"><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk">guardian.co.uk</a> &#169; Guardian News &#38; Media Limited 2009 &#124; Use of this content is subject to our <a href="http://users.guardian.co.uk/help/article/0,,933909,00.html">Terms &#38; Conditions</a> &#124; <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/help/feeds">More Feeds</a></div><p style="clear:both" />
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<p class="standfirst">Can the three interchangeable presenters rise to the challenge and get under the skin of three almost interchangeable leaders?</p>
<p>As one of nature&#8217;s enthusiasts, a kind of Candide of the political scene, it is a struggle to be sceptical, let alone cynical. But as I listen to the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8425280.stm" title="BBC: Brown to face three televised election debates ">excited outpourings of the broadcast political correspondents</a>, I am left repeating the timeless cliche: &#8220;Well they <em>would</em> say that, wouldn&#8217;t they?&#8221;</p>
<p>One live TV debate between the three main party leaders (tough luck, SNP) is certainly a political event. <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/dec/21/political-leaders-live-tv-debate" title="Guardian: Political party leaders agree plan for historic live TV debates">Three</a> â€“ well, that&#8217;s the world of broadcasting diversity. But exciting? Well, maybe only to broadcasters. The politicians have finally recognised there is a forum for debate outside the House of Commons, and it&#8217;s theirs.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/dec/21/election-tv-debates#start-of-comments" title="Guardian: Gordon Brown, David Cameron and Nick Clegg to appear in live TV debates - comments">Those commenting on this story</a> are generally as sceptical as I am, fearing it will be all about sweaty upper lips rather than political ambition and fundamental beliefs.</p>
<p>I suspect that very swiftly the debate will be not Brown/Cameron/Clegg but Stewart/Boulton/Dimbleby. And, in a curious way, it should be. If this is to be a real, substantive debate where the party leaders are forced to confront the implications of their rhetoric, then it is the three presenters, ITV&#8217;s <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alastair_Stewart" title="Wikpedia: Alastair Stewart">Alastair Stewart</a>, Sky&#8217;s <a href="http://blogs.news.sky.com/boultonandco" title="Sky: Adam Boulton">Adam Boulton</a>  and the BBC&#8217;s <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/question_time/david_dimbleby/default.stm" title="BBC: David Dimbleby">David Dimbleby</a> that will have to make them do it.</p>
<p>Tory bloggers wonder why David Cameron has <a href="http://conservativehome.blogs.com/thetorydiary/2009/12/these-debates-are-a-christmas-gift-to-brown-and-clegg.html" title="Conservative Home: Christmas comes early for Brown and Clegg in the shape of election debates">exposed his poll lead to such a challenge</a>. But if the debate chairmen (and heavens, how much more similar can you get that these three: white, top of the range, 50+ political personalities, brought up in the same school of political broadcasting. It&#8217;s not a bad school, but others are available) can actually pin the players down, and â€“ most centrally â€“ get, for example, Cameron to address what he thinks the state can and can&#8217;t do, and whether he really thinks what he has implied in speeches to his party conference and in the <a href="http://www.conservatives.com/News/Speeches/2009/11/David_Cameron_The_Big_Society.aspx" title="Conservatives: The Big Society speech">Hugo Young lecture</a>, that the bankers are somehow less culpable than government in the current crisis. And get Brown to explain just why he so powerfully endorsed noble ends such as <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3509886.stm" title="BBC: Brown's child poverty challenge">ending child poverty</a> or feeding Africa, while creating the economic conditions that would make it most difficult to achieve them. And get Clegg to set out <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8264994.stm" title="BBC: Clegg rejects Tory alliance call ">where his bottom line really lies</a>. In short, if one of them can get the politicians to reveal their thinking â€“ then there really will have been an advance for democracy.</p>
<p>But three interchangeable presenters will almost certainly just underline that our voting options in the election will be between three almost interchangeable politicians.</p>
<p>Yet a good debate really can change minds, or at least explain people&#8217;s prejudices to themselves. I fear my mastermind-level knowledge of <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Red-Queen-Authorised-Biography-Barbara/dp/0330486411/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1261427965&#038;sr=1-1" title="Amazon: Red Queen - The Authorised Biography of Barbara Castle by Anne Perkins">Barbara Castle&#8217;s life</a> is about to impose itself. But it was a debate on Europe that found her out. It took place at the Oxford Union in 1975, televised because no one would participate in a formal studio debate (aren&#8217;t the political classes wearisomely slow to think about things in a new way?). And this was probably a decisive moment in the public perception of the campaign.</p>
<p>The Liberal leader Jeremy Thorpe â€“ speaking with Edward Heath for the &#8220;yes&#8221; campaign â€“ challenged her to resign from Harold Wilson&#8217;s Labour government if the vote went against her. Her attempt to present her campaign as the last moment to defend Britain&#8217;s ability to make its own laws was shredded by Thorpe&#8217;s taunt. Surely, was the underlying message, if Britain in Europe meant its government became powerless, there would be no point in belonging to it. My country would need me more than ever, she retorted. Not a bad response really, but too many people already saw Castle as a self-promoting doctrinaire politician of the left. It was an invitation to derision, a confirmation of all that her detractors claimed about her, and about the campaign of which she was a leading member. It was not about principle, just party position.</p>
<p>What would be the killer question now? Or are Cameron and Brown locked in a kind of political waltz so closely choreographed that neither will allow the other space to reveal their true political selves, least of all in a debate chaired by interchangeable presenters?</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/general-election">General election</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/television">Television</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/television">Television industry</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/gordon-brown">Gordon Brown</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/nickclegg">Nick Clegg</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/davidcameron">David Cameron</a></li>
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